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Post by Necktie Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:48 pm

Many of us search of adult content of women in shirt and tie in many different websites, and sometimes we find neat videos and sometimes, just bad luck. 

Good stuff are rare, scattered on various different websites. And one reason they are hard to find is the videos are not properly tagged with "tie", "shirt" and "necktie". Hence, a keyword search is not guaranteed to find us what we want. 

I am among many of you who spend a significant amount of time (thousands of hours every year) doing bulk/brute-force search: almost blindly go through every website, pay membership, go through every possible click they have, hopping to find something. An if you're lucky, you may find 1-2 good clips every 6 month!!! 

If I have hunted for pirate treasure box, or have gone gold hunting, I would have been a millionaire by now Smile

With many advantages in AI and "content-based" media search, nowadays it sounds feasible to implement an "agent" that can crawl web, assert each media it encounters, and extract those that match our "passion".

So, I envision a dedicated website that hosts 1-min-long (or even shorter due to copyright reasons) videos of clips that are found using an AI-enabled agent, the clips would have all the details to where they are found, so you can go and purchase them if you want. 

This way, we would not spend our precious hours blindly search web, instead there will a smart agent who is constantly crawling web and extracting what we need. 

However, that does not come for free! We need to develop required services (namely the content-based searching agent), train it, connect it to websites (e.g., pay for memberships when required), and run it constantly so it can crawl and find new material as soon as they come online. 

I have the necessary knowledge to implement it, but since it can take about 1 year of full time development, I cannot do this myself (because I have another job Smile), but I can supervise a developer and provide assistance when needed.  

So, if you agree with me that bulk search is a waste of our time and usually does not really payoff, I suggest to do a fundraising. If you're interested, you can contribute. If we can raise enough money to hire a full-time developer with necessary skills for 1 year (we're looking at about $100,000), we should be able to have at least a beta version within a year.

I can take care of hiring a developer and supervise them, and we can have monthly discussion with all the people who helped with the fundraising. 

I have fairly deep understanding of the technicalities of how this can work, but have not done any fundraising before.

Open for suggestions and ideas.

Open to any suggestion.

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Post by arokh Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:34 am

I LOVE the idea but I don't think that level of funding is anywhere near feasible. Realistically I think establishing social networks for finding and sharing stuff is the best bet given how niche this taste is, and how little people generally are willing to pay.

That said, for the sake of your finances, is $100,000 really realistic as a price? I understand that a full-time developer cost for a year would be in the tens of thousands but 100K seems like an astronomical sum to me. The average salary for a web developer here in the UK is £25,000 (= $31,000), and if you were hypothetically to hire a developer in Poland, Romania, Ukraine etc. where cost of living is lower the rate would likely be lower still. Food for thought?

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Post by Necktie Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:32 pm

Would social network work? maybe, you will have some content, but not sustainable, and only a subset of what is out there is circulated in the social networks. 

Reg. $100,000: quite honestly, I believe suggested the very low bar on that. We have a junior developer with 3 years of experience after CS bachelors who at best has an entry-level understanding of the technology we need for this project (e.g., deep neural networks, content-based media retrieval, high-performance crawling, and etc.), and they're already paid way more than $100,000 per year. 

As I mentioned in the first post, the developer salary is just part of the costs. To give a little taste of other costs: 

- we'll need to "train" the system, which will run high-end GPU's for days (check how much such a machine costs per day on AWS, GCP, or Azure);
- you will need to pay for "crawling": gain access to paid websites, and employ a significant compute time and network bandwidth to download content and analyze them (apply the trained network on the key frames of the clip) one-by-one. It took us 2 months on dedicated servers with 10Gb connection to analyze 1,000 movie trailers from Youtube. The clips to be analyzed for this project, are (a) much longer than 1-2 min trailers, and (b) way more than 1,000 (only one paid website may have more videos than this).

We all agree this is a niche taste, and that is exactly why we should consider supporting ourselves. If you want "general" porn, there are countless free stuff out there, and if you want good quality paid ones, still countless websites out there, with hundreds of thousands of clips. With maximum $30 you can have access to thousands of high quality "general" porn. 

But we want something **rare**, maybe diamond is more popular than what we want. So, how do we find what we want? spend countless hours doing bulk search? many of us may never see most of the good quality non-uniform porn stuff, simply because they will not pop-up with keyword search, and many of those are not circulated in social media.

This is your rare taste, how much are you willing to pay for your most niche taste? how much are you willing to pay for your own amusement? some people pay thousands of dollars for a trip to their dream destinations, some pay thousands of dollars for drink, party, clothing, car, and etc.

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Post by arokh Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:34 am

Necktie wrote:Would social network work? maybe, you will have some content, but not sustainable, and only a subset of what is out there is circulated in the social networks. 

Reg. $100,000: quite honestly, I believe suggested the very low bar on that. We have a junior developer with 3 years of experience after CS bachelors who at best has an entry-level understanding of the technology we need for this project (e.g., deep neural networks, content-based media retrieval, high-performance crawling, and etc.), and they're already paid way more than $100,000 per year. 

As I mentioned in the first post, the developer salary is just part of the costs. To give a little taste of other costs: 

- we'll need to "train" the system, which will run high-end GPU's for days (check how much such a machine costs per day on AWS, GCP, or Azure);
- you will need to pay for "crawling": gain access to paid websites, and employ a significant compute time and network bandwidth to download content and analyze them (apply the trained network on the key frames of the clip) one-by-one. It took us 2 months on dedicated servers with 10Gb connection to analyze 1,000 movie trailers from Youtube. The clips to be analyzed for this project, are (a) much longer than 1-2 min trailers, and (b) way more than 1,000 (only one paid website may have more videos than this).

We all agree this is a niche taste, and that is exactly why we should consider supporting ourselves. If you want "general" porn, there are countless free stuff out there, and if you want good quality paid ones, still countless websites out there, with hundreds of thousands of clips. With maximum $30 you can have access to thousands of high quality "general" porn. 

But we want something **rare**, maybe diamond is more popular than what we want. So, how do we find what we want? spend countless hours doing bulk search? many of us may never see most of the good quality non-uniform porn stuff, simply because they will not pop-up with keyword search, and many of those are not circulated in social media.

This is your rare taste, how much are you willing to pay for your most niche taste? how much are you willing to pay for your own amusement? some people pay thousands of dollars for a trip to their dream destinations, some pay thousands of dollars for drink, party, clothing, car, and etc.

Fair enough. Leveraging all that hardware is quite a serious task, and this is an extremely ambitious goal that you've clearly put a lot of thought into given your level of expertise. Kudos!

However, if I were to start sinking substantial levels of money into this, I'd prefer to buy outfits for my partner and to try and explore it more in a real-life context rather than relying on online material. I've been thinking about that more and more and i think that would be both a more enjoyable result and healthier for my relationship.

I do sincerely wish you the best of luck though, I know your dedication to this community (or what's left of it) is real, and I hope you do manage to go ahead with something

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Post by Boundtie Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:40 pm

I'd like for there to be a website for this sort of thing, but it would be difficult to create and possibly costly
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Post by Necktie Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:26 pm

I do sincerely wish you the best of luck though, I know your dedication to this community (or what's left of it) is real, and I hope you do manage to go ahead with something

Thank you. 



I'd like for there to be a website for this sort of thing, but it would be difficult to create and possibly costly


I sincerely wish so, but unfortunately there is not one. For variety of reasons: the unique (and rare) taste we have, and commitment from people with the required skill-sets to implement it.

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Post by arokh Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:18 am

another thought: would it not maybe be more prudent to pool money to commission dedicated custom porn videos of women wearing shirt+tie, rather than building a crawler? it wouldn't be cheap, but it would be vastly cheaper than this project and the content would be far better than what is already out there by virtue of it being made exactly to the specification of those with this fetish

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Post by Necktie Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:57 pm

That is a *different*, and good idea. 

However, that is limited since each custom hardcore video is very expensive, e.g., order of couple thousands of USD, and I know few occasions it has failed.

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Post by Necktie Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:58 pm

That being said, I still believe there are very good content out there, that are just waiting to found Smile

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Post by adwaitnigade Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:29 am

I feel attracted and turned on by a women in shirt tie skirt & a blazer... Even more if she's put in a couple of drinks and hence haa loosed her tie a bit and shirt partly tucked out.
What do you think about it? Do anyone among you feel similarly ?

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