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Post by Northerner Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:06 am

How about a little thought experiment? What if 'black tie' really meant all guests are supposed to wear it, but with ladies traditionally choosing white jackets for contrast and femininity? 
Here's a look at how cinema legends through the decades might have appeared attending premieres or parties under those circumstances. Bases created with AI and touched up/redrawn (sometimes extensively) by me.

Let's start with icons of the 1930's…including one who's frankly more 20's, so she goes first.

(EDIT: I've replaced the pics with named ones, since there were more than 250 views without a single guess. I suppose the recognition game didn't fly, so we'll stick to this from now on.)


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Post by Northerner Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:17 am

Okay, round 2 - icons of the 1940's. Check above for updated pics with names - and a redrawn version of Ms. Harlow with a more period-appropiate tie. Smile

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Post by jropika Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:56 am

Personally i like Vivien Leigh's style the best. She wears a starched front shirt according to that era (I assume with a detachable starched collar), the shape and size of the black bow tie are perfect and the black waistcoat is also a must.

The other pictures are also great, especially where the lady is not wearing a turned-down collar. A turned down collar just isn't elegant enough for a tuxedo or white tie.

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Post by Northerner Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:17 am

I tend to agree - I've redrawn a few turndowns as wingtips. That said, I like some variation and sometimes let what the AI spat out stay for that reason (and for looking nice enough).
However, if I simply posted the pics as-is they would often look quite sloppy since the computer has trouble deciding on good tie placement and size - it takes some effort to fix that, otherwise I could post a new batch every day. Will take at least a week at this rate. Smile
I've yet to see it produce a diamond-point tie, but I've drawn in a few to both cover bad edging and follow the fashion of the time. I plan to make them a bit thinner for the sixties and wider for the seventies, but not to the extremes you could see back then. And I personally don't like batwings much so I think I'll skip that style entirely. Very Happy
(Also, I get the computer to produce a few variations of each lady and pick what I feel works best, which sometimes means swapping in the hair, tie or even entire suit from another. So consider this little project a hybrid of AI and manual drawing!)

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Post by jropika Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:14 pm

It is understandable that it is not simple, but nevertheless, these turned out to be very high-quality works. Perhaps the highest quality that I have seen so far among the works of ai, perhaps they are of similar quality to the works of Bdb. Smile

I would like to see this concept with a white tie, with a high imperial collar that completely covers the neck instead of a wing collar.
And if there are hands, then with white gloves and a starched single cuff with cufflinks. Smile

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Post by Northerner Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:21 am

Stepping back a bit, here are a couple more from the thirties - dancers that helped define the era. Since I realized there should be about four more from the forties I thought an even dozen per decade would be nice and symmetrical. Will post that quartet next!

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Post by Northerner Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:36 am

Back to the forties - for some bonus trivia, the first two were VERY famous right around when the Archie comics started. In case you thought the names of his two perennial gal pals were chosen at random... Smile

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Post by Northerner Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 am

And now for the absolute mid-century - the 1950's.

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And I'm going to make an exception here and turn it into a baker's dozen on account of the Gabor sisters - wouldn't be fair to mention just one of them when both had quite a bit of presence. They do look alike, but not enough to justify a choice since their images differed somewhat - cool and classy vs. vivacious and worldy.

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